Catholics on Y!A, do you believe that the Earth stand stills while the Sun, moon, and stars revolve around it?

March 22, 2010 - 4:05 am
  • I was shocked to read certain opinions expressed on this Catholic thread:

    http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default....

    and thought I might take a quick poll of Catholics here on Y!A.

    Do you accept that the Earth orbits the Sun and not the other way around, or do you believe geocentrism is an infallible dogma and so must be believed regardless of scientific consensus?


  • You pretty much have to believe it. Recently, the Catholic Church itself acknowledged it (within the past 25 years I believe) so you have to believe it to be true. It was a flaw in the faith to state otherwise and now, anyone who sees different can't help but be seen as a fool.
    Times have changed and clearly people made errors. Humanity isn't perfect, neither is any religion.


  • Actually, neither theory is provable as the sun isn't in the center of the galaxy and we couldn't even begin to know where the center of the universe is.

    And the Bible says nothing about either being the center.

    (Sorry but as you didn't specify Catholics only...)


  • no
    i'm happy with the solar system how it is


  • I don't actually believe they are rotating around the Earth so much as they are rotating around Me......

    Seriously, I've never heard of that. I guess one wouldn't be game to mention evolution around them.


  • First, you don't have to be Catholic to believe this. If you believe in Einstein's Theory of Relativity, then you believe this (or should - if you understand the theory properly, anyway).


    2) Do you accept that the Earth orbits the Sun and not the other way around, or do you believe geocentrism is an infallible dogma and so must be believed regardless of scientific consensus?

    I recognize that a solar-centric view is one originally based on the much-simplified mathematics it permits. Although Newtonian Mechanics seemed to support solar-centrism, now that most physicists accept the (pertinent portion of the) Theory of Relativity as sound, once again we are at a stage where solar-centrism is maintained solely because it simplifies the math involved in solar system mechanics.


    Jim, http://www.bible-reviews.com


  • Actually, the Catholic church, in the early 1990s, finally admitted that Galileo had been right about that. It took them almost 400 years, but, hey, better late than never, right?
    I guess this is one of those things you aren't supposed to take literally--but the stuff about homosexuality, you are.


  • i dont believe that because it is proven by scientist


  • its possible


  • The Catholic Church does not have a literal interpretation of the Bible.

    So, yes, science is accepted.


  • No duh..maybe if this was 1372 or never went to schoo I'd say yes


  • go ask one ur self in real life


  • it looked to me like the gal really didn't know one way or the other and had heard someone talking anout the "old days" of just out of context. people can't base historical knowledge against today's scientific advancements.

    i think those that truly believe that need to look through the official Church documents and see the error of their ways.


  • Catholicism has no problem with heliocentric solar system

    Earth-center fruitcakes do not speak for Catholicism

    Geocentrism is not capable of infallible definition since it does not deal with faith and morals.


  • Of course we do and I not only learned that in a Catholic school but taught that in a Catholic school. Further, the Pope has never declared such nonsense as "infallible doctrine." He wouldn't because it has nothing to do with religion. Moreover, no Catholic is saying such a thing on that site. Someone asked a question and the Catholics are telling her that, no, it was never declared dogma, but, rather, it was a common belief back in the day. So, the program she was watching, if it actually said such a thing, is wrong NOT her for asking the question and not those who answered that it is wrong.

    I didn't see anyone on the thread saying that geocentrism is infallible dogma but if they believe it they are not only wrong but going against the Church's teachings.


  • no i don't believe that...
    i had never heard of this stuff before


  • um the link you provided is WAY off! we believe the earth revolves around the sun.


  • were in the bible does it say that? I'm catholic and still don't get how Catholics believe that.


  • Why not ? Why the fuss ?
    Spiritually speaking the universe is geocentric.
    Scientifically speaking, any point of the Universe can be considered static with everything else rotating around it ; who cares ! I mean there are no known reference point ; it's not like the Universe is in a box and all movements are measured from the sides of the box ; on the other hand it makes a lot of sense to use the earth as a reference point ; that's were we live ! If you use the sun as a reference then you choose to disregard the centrality of the Milky Way; if you choose the center of the Milky Way then you disregard the expansion of the Universe and so on ; I mean whatever you choose as the center is going to be arbitrary and since they still have not found extraterrestrial life, as far as I am concerned the earth is still the center of the Universe. And don't tell me they found the actual center of the Universe, they are just guessing around !


  • If that's what Papa sez...


  • Who wants to read through that thread? Stop picking on Catholics.


  • That's dumb... My family, including myself are catholic and we acknowledge real science. We arn't amish.


  • Um... no.







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